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Combined fire / burg panel – which contract should be used
January 27, 2021
Combined fire / burg panel – which contract should be used
       What contract should I use for a customer with combo burg/fire?   I have some customers with this scenario but also some of those customers have multiple locations.  Please let us know if you need anything else.
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            This has come up before and I suppose with newer panels that are approved for combined fire and burg it will continue to be an issue.
            We can agree that there is a difference between security systems and fire alarm systems.  Most of you know those differences better than I do, and many of you will install and service one system and not the other.  The security and fire systems are always separate, but when a combined burg/fire panel is used in a commercial setting, as some AHJs permit, the security systems and fire alarm systems connect to a single panel and communication device.
            If you are familiar with the Fire All in One and the Commercial Security All in One you will note the differences between these two Standard Form Agreements.  For one thing the Fire All in One encourages systems to code and the filing for and obtaining a permit.  This will require that the specifications for the system are included in the filed plans that get approved.  With a security system, even though there may be UL or other guidelines for proper design and installation, you and the subscriber are on your own, able to agree on the components and scope of security services.
            Monitoring is different.  Fire alarm monitoring has guidelines from NFPA which in many cases have been codified in your jurisdiction.  Security systems also have guidelines, but rarely codified requirements.
            As you should expect the contract provisions are different for fire and security.  Because of the limited requirements for residential fire alarm systems the Residential All in One does combine security and fire.  Commercial jobs are different and should be addressed in two separate contracts, the Fire All in One and the Commercial Security All in One.  
            If you do commercial fire and sometimes add security, you can use the Fire All in One with Security Rider.  Because the Security Rider is not a standalone agreement, referring to the fire alarm agreement, it can’t be used for just a security system.  The better practice is to use the Fire All in One for the fire alarm and the Commercial All in One for the security system. 
            If the two systems use the same panel you should state, in the Security All in One, on the Schedule of Equipment and Services, that the security system is sharing and connected to the fire alarm panel.

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Ken Kirschenbaum,Esq
Kirschenbaum & Kirschenbaum PC
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