KEN KIRSCHENBAUM, ESQ ALARM - SECURITY INDUSTRY LEGAL EMAIL NEWSLETTER / THE ALARM EXCHANGE You can read all of our articles on our website. Having trouble getting our emails? Change your spam controls and white list ken@kirschenbaumesq.com ******************************* Comment on prevailing industry standards November 6, 2019 ************************ Comment on prevailing industry standards from November 1, 2019 article ************************* Ken Well you did it again, coffee on my keyboard. Frank Sinatra. I look forward each day to you emails. On a serious side in my experience when it comes fire alarms what is standard varies depending where the job is being done. Nassau County requires smoke detectors in a commercial environment in every closet. That’s the county’s thinking. Yet at the same time I was told face to face “ why do you guys always put outside horn strobe , there’s no code for that” I was inside the Nassau fire marshal’s office with the plans reviewer at that time. Each Village and town outside of Nassau has their own version, and worse than that so does the AHJ on sight, at that moment. True experience: I bid a fire alarm for a shopping center (12 small stores) lost the bid. ( a Suffolk county town). I was curious why so I investigated and only found the company who got the job only put pull stations at the front door. The town code required a pull station at each exit door. ( total of 24 doors) That should be a total of 24 pull station. The winning bidder got the job with 12 less pulls. I tactfully approached the owner of the winner of the job and asked why there was no pull stations at the rear door and here was the answer. “ That’s fire marshal bills area and he doesn’t care about rear doors “ So the term Industry standards means something different, at least to me. George Martin *********************** Response *********************** Prevailing industry standards can mean different things in different parts of the country. And an opinionated AHJ can certainly set standards that may be different than what you as a trained professional believes is appropriate. Some rules of thumb become apparent. Follow regulatory agency guidelines, especially if they have made their way into the building code or other statutory regulation Follow manufacturer guidelines unless you’ve got a very good reason not to Follow AHJ requirements, and get them in writing if you really disagree Follow your contract, which should not be inconsistent with the other rules *********************** To order up to date Standard Form Alarm / Security / Fire and related forms, click here:www.alarmcontracts.com ************************* CONCIERGE LAWYER SERVICE FOR THE ALARM INDUSTRY PROGRAM You can check out the program and sign up here: https://www.kirschenbaumesq.com/page/concierge or contact our Program Coordinator Stacy Spector, Esq at 516 747 6700 x 304. *********************** NOTICE: You can always read our Articles on our website at ww.kirschenbaumesq.com/page/alarm-articles *********************** THE ALARM EXCHANGE
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